For those looking for bigger tires...

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  1. Rednewt

    Rednewt Member

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    I love the styling of my new Iron Borne. Although not built for the same capabilities of the wrangler this Jeep does have its potential. Howbeit...limited. After installing the new Daystar 1.5" lift and 1.25" spacers there is no doubt they bring an added beefiness that this Renny needed. The next step? New tires of course! But if your like me, on a budget and don't mind the wheels of the Trailhawk model then really all you want is to go up a size in a 4x pair of A/Ts. This is where the dilemma really gets interesting...

    Tire sizes come in all varieties and I have been trying to acquaint myself with the various terms of backspacing, offset, and wheel sizes that just a few weeks ago I had no concept of. Granted, the forums are certainly a blessing to point someone in the right direction. And with that being said, here is a little something for those in my same plight. If your not sure what will fit, take a good look at these measurements to give you a rough idea.


    The specs for my build include:
    2016 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk
    1.5" Daystar lift
    1.25" at 5 x 110mm bolt pattern spacers
    17" wheels and 215/65r17 Falken Wildpeak H/Ts (essentially 28" diameter x 8.5 width)
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    A great tool that I have found helpful is the tiresize.com website to compare between your factory tires and what you want to downsize/upsize into. Its extremely helpful in determining what may or may not fit. Furthermore, if your looking to go to a different wheelsize and find the equivalent tire size this is awesome!
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    From the back tires the closest trim to worry about is the trim closest to the doors, about 1.5" inches of play, no issues here.
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    However, here in the front we see that with the wheels turned in the gap is quickly closed...
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    Rubbing is going to occur with about .5" added to the sidewall or 1" to the diameter at the pinch seem. Also, a wider tire will cause problems here too.
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    In the end, I cant see anyone running anything larger than a 29" tire without serious rubbing. You can use spacers to push the wheel out from rubbing on the strut but then your run into the problem of limiting your turn radius. In other words, the longer range of the spacer - the greater the swing of the wheel into the fender liner. If this is the case, then it might be time to bust out some cutting tools. Look at the Pinch Seam Trim by Wayolife.

    I have a set of 235/65R17's on the way and already plan to be moving some things around to make room. In the future, it would be nice to see some other alternatives for aftermarket fender liners that accommodate some cutting of the pinch seems.
     
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    Keep us informed. Thanks for the detailed write-up. I think the way you explained it makes it a lot easier for many of us to grasp
     
  3. JEEPER-76

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    I am running 225/75R16 Cooper STT PRO mud terrains with 1.5" lift and 1" hub adapters. I think the 29.3" dia. tire is the largest you will get on there. You may be able to get a 235 on there but may only be able to go 29" max with a little fender work. Here are some pics.
     

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    Nice wheels! I am running 1,5" lift and 225/75/16 mud too, but bfgoodrich. No hub adapters or fender work, all stock.

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    Nice setup! I love your wheels and the BFG's. There isn't much out there in the 17" as far as mud terrain. Are those lights on your roof rack? If so what brand are they, I like!
     
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    4 Hella lights.

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    Thanks Rednewt! Curious to see what you do...I do like the comfort of knowing I have no rubbing issues, and since barely larger than stock tires, less impact on the engine with 225/65r17

    With that said, I think the Jeep looks much better with larger, wider tires...but I think I would be completely satisfied with the setup like the jeep renegade commander concept with 245s...I just don't see how that thing moves tho.
     
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    Very informative. Thanks!
     
  9. FireHawk

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    So the 16" factory wheels had no problem fitting over your TrailHawk calipers without having to use spacers? That has been an issue in the past, the factory 16" wheels will not clear the larger TrailHawk brake calipers.
     
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    If I remember correctly, South American markets have production in South America somewhere, presumably Brazil. They might not be using the same brakes as the North American market vehicles produced in Italy get. They might just use the same brakes on all models.
     
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    Bom dia Alceu,

    Encomendei um kit da DayStar e vou fazer com meu Renegade exatamente o que você fez com o seu. Temos o Renegade Clube(fórum e grupo de whatsapp) . Você deveria entrar para trocarmos informações. Meu whatsapp:(85)998232257.

    Abraços cordiais e parabéns pela viatura.
     
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    That's what I'm wondering, however didn't someone claim that in the US the 2016 and forward models would all get the larger calipers? If so, that would make getting a stock 16" wheelset and going larger tires a lot easier for us here.
     
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    I think that we'll need someone with a 2016 to pull a wheel and measure the rotor and/or look for a part number. Probably wouldn't hurt to do the same with a 2017.

    If they do have a setup that fits the 16" wheel with the TH-diameter rotor, even if it requires a different caliper and possibly mounting bracket, that might be a worthwhile change.
     

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