I went price shopping for tires sized 225/65/17 today and came away thinking if I did buy them it would be the end of my Renegade and possiblly the world as we know it. The salesman basically said that a size 225/65/17 on a Renegade would spell doom and gloom. I got the impression that if I bought them I would probably destroy everything and would feel real bad. They would ruin my transmission, destroy the brakes, steering and just about everything else except possibly the radio. So all of you that have this size tire be prepared. . I told him that there are many, many thousands of Rengades with these tires and he said you are all doomed. Needless to say I will be going elsewhere for tires. He said here, check out these Michelins, I did, all Honda Accords, Camrys, Chevys, no cuvs, suvs. Found out later he was the manager.